Adding another server instance to another hard drive?

Problem: For safety reasons, I want an exact copy of all SQL databases on
another hard drive. I'm trying to guard against a hard drive crash.
Currently, I detach, file copy to another drive, then reattach each
individual database. Since SQL Server is running on different hard drive
from the data, I know that I wouldn't have to reinstall it.
1) Is there a way to do what I am asking?
2) Is this the correct the newsgroup to post these questions?
3) Is there a book that covers this?
Tried various keywords, but couldn't find anything in Books Online. I'm
running MS SQL Server Developer's ed. under Windows 2000 Pro.
Niels
That is what backups are for. It's much easier to simply do a backup of
each database (including Master & MSDB) and store those in a different
location. Preferably on a different machine or medium altogether, You don't
have to take the databases off line for a backup like you do with detach.
You might want to take a look at this:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...n/sqlops0.mspx
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Niels" <nkistrup@.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6v-dnY1yOZGJGCXdRVn2sQ@.giganews.com...
> Problem: For safety reasons, I want an exact copy of all SQL databases on
> another hard drive. I'm trying to guard against a hard drive crash.
> Currently, I detach, file copy to another drive, then reattach each
> individual database. Since SQL Server is running on different hard drive
> from the data, I know that I wouldn't have to reinstall it.
> 1) Is there a way to do what I am asking?
> 2) Is this the correct the newsgroup to post these questions?
> 3) Is there a book that covers this?
> Tried various keywords, but couldn't find anything in Books Online. I'm
> running MS SQL Server Developer's ed. under Windows 2000 Pro.
> Niels
>
|||Thanks Andrew,
But I will still like to create another server. Where I can find the steps
to add additional server instances?
Niels
"Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
news:ev$827XREHA.568@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> That is what backups are for. It's much easier to simply do a backup of
> each database (including Master & MSDB) and store those in a different
> location. Preferably on a different machine or medium altogether, You
don't
> have to take the databases off line for a backup like you do with detach.
> You might want to take a look at this:
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...n/sqlops0.mspx[vbcol=seagreen]
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly
> SQL Server MVP
>
> "Niels" <nkistrup@.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6v-dnY1yOZGJGCXdRVn2sQ@.giganews.com...
on[vbcol=seagreen]
drive
>
|||There a couple of options that you might want to consider.
Firstly if your running NT 4, 2000 or 2003, then ask your network guys to
raid the disks, I wouldn't do into it in too much detail but there are
plenty of examples. What a raid does in automatically (non SQL Server) copy
stuff from one hard drive to another.
If you wish to create another instance on your current machine then that
will not really help as if the machine goes then both instances go.
If you want to create another server then you will need another machine to
do it then you just install SQL Server the normal way, that will create a
default instance on that machine.
If you want to keep your database running in case of server crashes then
create a new server and backup your databases on the other server.(using the
backup database command).
If you want a server to kick in automatically when your existing server dies
then look on Microsoft for Replication, and High Availabity Server.
"Niels" <nkistrup@.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Andrew,
> But I will still like to create another server. Where I can find the
steps[vbcol=seagreen]
> to add additional server instances?
> Niels
> "Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
> news:ev$827XREHA.568@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> don't
detach.
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...n/sqlops0.mspx[vbcol=seagreen]
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> on
> drive
I'm
>
|||Peter,
So much for my mastery of English. I don't think I'm explaining the
situation correctly, sorry.
I'm running Win 2000 Pro, with the developer's edition of MS SQL Server, but
I have 4 hard drives ... and it's all on my home computer (I'm the 'network
guy'). Maybe another server instance is not the correct terminology?
Currently my data is on D:, but I would like to use one of the other hard
drives to actively store data.
If the computer crashes, I'm screwed, but I can always move the hard drive
to another machine. Heck the drive where the data is 6 1/2 yrs old, and has
migrated across machines in the past. (The hard drive.)
Niels
"Peter Nolan" <peter.nolan90@.ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:x4luc.65$PA4.57@.newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net...
> There a couple of options that you might want to consider.
> Firstly if your running NT 4, 2000 or 2003, then ask your network guys to
> raid the disks, I wouldn't do into it in too much detail but there are
> plenty of examples. What a raid does in automatically (non SQL Server)
copy
> stuff from one hard drive to another.
> If you wish to create another instance on your current machine then that
> will not really help as if the machine goes then both instances go.
> If you want to create another server then you will need another machine to
> do it then you just install SQL Server the normal way, that will create a
> default instance on that machine.
> If you want to keep your database running in case of server crashes then
> create a new server and backup your databases on the other server.(using
the
> backup database command).
> If you want a server to kick in automatically when your existing server
dies[vbcol=seagreen]
> then look on Microsoft for Replication, and High Availabity Server.
>
> "Niels" <nkistrup@.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:8fKdnfr3UYxtyCTdRVn2sw@.giganews.com...
> steps
of
> detach.
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...n/sqlops0.mspx[vbcol=seagreen]
databases
> I'm
>
|||A disaster recovery plan will help you minimize data loss. You need to
plan for various recovery scenarios according to the amount of data loss
that is acceptable to you.
The worst case is that you lose your computer completely due to a disaster
such as for or theft. Your only recourse in this situation is to reinstall
SQL Server on a working machine and restore from backups you've kept in a
safe location.
If your computer crashes and/or you lose your SQL Server drive, you might
get lucky with a successful attach of the database files if your database
files are intact. However, you should not rely on this and plan on
restoring your database from backup because you might not be able to attach
databases which were not detached properly.
The bottom line is that you need to backup your databases periodically and
archive the backup files to a safe location.
Hope this helps.
Dan Guzman
SQL Server MVP
"Niels" <nkistrup@.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Peter,
> So much for my mastery of English. I don't think I'm explaining the
> situation correctly, sorry.
> I'm running Win 2000 Pro, with the developer's edition of MS SQL Server,
but
> I have 4 hard drives ... and it's all on my home computer (I'm the
'network
> guy'). Maybe another server instance is not the correct terminology?
> Currently my data is on D:, but I would like to use one of the other hard
> drives to actively store data.
> If the computer crashes, I'm screwed, but I can always move the hard drive
> to another machine. Heck the drive where the data is 6 1/2 yrs old, and
has
> migrated across machines in the past. (The hard drive.)
> Niels
>
|||Dan,
Lets talk 'preemptive correction'. My data drive is 6 1/2 yrs old & have
the replacement drive ready for swapping. How do you copy the server
instance onto a new drive. From what I can see, it is not as easy as
copying the SQL data folder to another drive, then onto the new one. (Or is
it?)
I am still curious about creating other server instances on other hard
drives. That way, I could spread the data across hard drives. Yes, I need
to transfer my data to a new drive, which will have the same drive. But
just because I cannot figure how out how to create new server instances,
makes me curious about the procedure. I work as a T-SQL developer, but my
DBA skills are minimal, which is why I'm being such a persistent pest about
this.
Hard drive crashes remain my #1 disaster threat. Failure of the computer is
also possible, but like you said, regular backups minimize problems from
that.
Niels
"Dan Guzman" <danguzman@.nospam-earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OPBjaKmREHA.2848@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> A disaster recovery plan will help you minimize data loss. You need to
> plan for various recovery scenarios according to the amount of data loss
> that is acceptable to you.
> The worst case is that you lose your computer completely due to a disaster
> such as for or theft. Your only recourse in this situation is to
reinstall
> SQL Server on a working machine and restore from backups you've kept in a
> safe location.
> If your computer crashes and/or you lose your SQL Server drive, you might
> get lucky with a successful attach of the database files if your database
> files are intact. However, you should not rely on this and plan on
> restoring your database from backup because you might not be able to
attach[vbcol=seagreen]
> databases which were not detached properly.
> The bottom line is that you need to backup your databases periodically and
> archive the backup files to a safe location.
> --
> Hope this helps.
> Dan Guzman
> SQL Server MVP
> "Niels" <nkistrup@.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:NeudnYnNW-kXTiTdRVn2tQ@.giganews.com...
> but
> 'network
hard[vbcol=seagreen]
drive
> has
>
|||I am not sure if you really mean another instance or just moving the data
files. If you want to install a second instance of sql server (binaries)
then you need to rerun the setup and point it to the other drive for the
install. If you just want to move the data files you can find what you need
here:
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=314546 Moving DB's between Servers
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=224071 Moving SQL Server Databases
to a New Location with Detach/Attach
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=221465 Using WITH MOVE in a
Restore
http://www.databasejournal.com/featu...le.php/2228611
Transferring Logins
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=246133 How To Transfer Logins and
Passwords Between SQL Servers
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=298897 Mapping Logins & SIDs after a
Restore
http://www.dbmaint.com/SyncSqlLogins.asp Utility to map logins to
users
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=168001 User Logon and/or Permission
Errors After Restoring Dump
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=240872 How to Resolve Permission
Issues When a Database Is Moved Between SQL Servers
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/scri...p?scriptid=599
Restoring a .mdf
This still does not mean you should not have valid backups. See BACKUP and
RESTORE in BooksOnLine for more info.

Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Niels" <nkistrup@.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Dan,
> Lets talk 'preemptive correction'. My data drive is 6 1/2 yrs old & have
> the replacement drive ready for swapping. How do you copy the server
> instance onto a new drive. From what I can see, it is not as easy as
> copying the SQL data folder to another drive, then onto the new one. (Or
is
> it?)
> I am still curious about creating other server instances on other hard
> drives. That way, I could spread the data across hard drives. Yes, I
need
> to transfer my data to a new drive, which will have the same drive. But
> just because I cannot figure how out how to create new server instances,
> makes me curious about the procedure. I work as a T-SQL developer, but my
> DBA skills are minimal, which is why I'm being such a persistent pest
about
> this.
> Hard drive crashes remain my #1 disaster threat. Failure of the computer
is[vbcol=seagreen]
> also possible, but like you said, regular backups minimize problems from
> that.
> Niels
> "Dan Guzman" <danguzman@.nospam-earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:OPBjaKmREHA.2848@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
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> reinstall
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